As part of the changes to the MSA requirements for ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) I need, as a minimum, a 45mm x 2.5mm CDS rollhoop with back stays. Speaking to various people about this to it seems I need to either remove the tub/weld backstays/refit tub with very long holes or cut tub top out over the top of the fueltank/diff and then weld in backstays. This new 'boot lid' could be made re-attached/removable with a ally return on the tub and some Dzus fasteners.
Can anyone think of another way to do this ? I really don't want to remove the tub as it has all the cabling running through it currently.
Phoenix Rollbar
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Re: Phoenix Rollbar
Morning Jeff, I have some ideas will sit down and send you a mail later
Simon
Simon
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Re: Phoenix Rollbar
How big would the access hole have to be to have room to do a decent welding job?
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Re: Phoenix Rollbar
Basically it needs to be a boot lid really. Have to be able to get in and weld the back stays and then cut the lid to fit round the stays.
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Re: Phoenix Rollbar
Playskool are doing one for a Westfield which is 890mm between the hoop, 475mm high and 920 between the backstays. Which is pretty much spot on for the Phoenix. £260 !
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Re: Phoenix Rollbar
Does the 920 for the back stays mean they line up with the Phoenix chassis at the attachment point under the tub/shell? Can you make a bolted connection to the chassis instead of having to weld in-situ? (ie fabricate a chassis attachment bracket to suit & bolt in place)
The angle of the back stays looks to be quite steep, so maybe a hole either side wouldn't have to be so elongated
ian
The angle of the back stays looks to be quite steep, so maybe a hole either side wouldn't have to be so elongated

ian
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Re: Phoenix Rollbar
They have to be welded in I believe. I don't know, yet, if the rear stays will fit.
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