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Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:42 am
by philfingers
I just purchased a yellow Phoenix (see new member introductions).
The car needs discs all around. It was a striker in a previous life and has a inboard rocking arm, with solid discs (and escort lower arm arrangement) on the front. The rear has a live axle which has solid discs and was supplied 'reconn'd' by Fisher SC's. It appears that the rear caliper bleed nipples face downwards if this gives a clue. Does anyone have any idea what the discs are off. I want to get them replaced today so going to pull them off later,
Phil
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:50 am
by jeffw
Why don't you phone Steve at Fury Sportscars. He will know.
Tel 01580 713777
http://www.furysportscars.co.ukFury Sports Cars.
Unit 8
Verralls Business Centre,
Maidstone Road
Cranbrook
Kent. TN17 2A
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:53 am
by matt_gsxr
Live axles were drum originally, but disks are an upgrade that people do.
Likely to be a Sierra calliper. Disk is more difficult to guess. Likely to be ford (as that will be the right bolt pattern).
What is the disk diameter? 252mm = Sierra, 240mm = Escort Mk3 (front) or Fiesta (not sure which model front), these have different offsets.
Local motorfactor should have all of these, easiest to take one off, take it in and get them to match it.
If you like DIY internet research then the
www.brakesint.co.uk site (in the shop) has dimensioned drawings of nearly all these parts.
Matt
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:18 pm
by philfingers
The discs on the back will rescue, just need a wire brush down. The odd thing is the (Sierra I guess) rear callipers seem to be upside down, the bleed nipple faces down, the hand brake cable up. I'm wondering if I can rotate them around, so they're in the right orientation.
The front’s have a separate bolt on steering arm, did I read somewhere this maybe Capri? The discs have to be removed once the hub has been removed. They’re 217 x 8mm, nice and small! No idea at this stage what they’re off.
I have pics, will post later. Yes I forgot about brakes int, I've used them before, they're good!
phil
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:21 pm
by adithorp
It's common on kits (not just Sylvas) for Sierra rear calipers to be mounted upside down. The ford fitting is on the rear of the hub and the kit fitting is to the front.The reason is to get a better alignment for the handbrake cable. No idea why the left caliper isn't fitted to the right and visa-versa though; That'd put the bleed nipples at the top. If you ever have to bleed the brakes you'll have to remove the calipers and tip them the rigth way up.
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:44 pm
by philfingers
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:24 pm
by petercoll
Don't recognise those hubs at all Phil.
Pete
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:48 pm
by matt_gsxr
That front hub isn't capri. Capri is a cut down MacPherson strut.
Don't know what it is though. Someone will recognise it though.
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:04 pm
by petercoll
It looks like it was made specially, as it does not appear to have been cut down from something bigger, and it looks very light.
Is there any writing or any marks on it Phil ?
Pete
Re: Phoenix Brakes
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:13 pm
by petercoll
And what are the markings on the caliper ?
Pete