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Seat fitting safely

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:31 pm
by Jester
On my Tango Jester under the seat runner I was surprised to find strips of Alloy that where shaped to the floor pan

The alloy is about 8mm in thickness is this strong/thick enough to take a load if needed to in a crash

Or would the bolts just rip right though the alloy making the seats like ejector seats

Have tried to get some steel the same thickness shapped but there machine cant shape to that thickness

I want to use Tango on track days so don't what any problems getting it checked over at the circuit

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:08 pm
by peter030371
Have you any pictures?

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:43 pm
by pigeondave
Wouldn't your harness strap you and the seat to the floor?

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:25 pm
by Jester
peter030371 wrote:Have you any pictures?



Pictures of the Alloys below

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Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:30 pm
by Jester
pigeondave wrote:Wouldn't your harness strap you and the seat to the floor?



I am using a standard seat belts set up that is the car first to get it back on the road/ Mot again for a bit then go the harness route after a bit

So the seats will move if not bolted down safely

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:21 am
by pigeondave
hmmm
looks think enough but if in doubt and for the price. I would going to ToolStation/Screwfix/Wickes and getting a galvanised mild steel restraint strap 30x5 and cutting it down to length.

Are the fixings tapped into the ally?

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:59 am
by Jester
Are the fixings tapped into the ally?[/quote]

Tapped ???

Just hole's with the bolt going though

This How I found them when I lifted the seats out

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:25 pm
by Boondougal
Timely topic.. I have just got my car pretty high of the ground to be able to do some work on her more comfortably and after going underneath to take the exhaust off I have noticed how the seat bolts simply stick through the floor and have a nut on the underside - the clear issue being that the floor panel looks pretty deformed from the bolt being tightened up.

I can't believe that the seats are secured only to the ally panel but it has me concerned enough for it to be yet another element that I'm going to "un build" in order to give my self confidence that its done right.

I didn't build this car.. but I've "unbuilt" so much of it to date that I'm being to wish I had just started from a fresh!


I am beginning to wonder if I prefer taking it to bit sand putting it back together more than I do driving it... given thats all I have been able to do since owning it for 2 years!!

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:51 am
by Jester
Boondougal wrote:Timely topic.. I have just got my car pretty high of the ground to be able to do some work on her more comfortably and after going underneath to take the exhaust off I have noticed how the seat bolts simply stick through the floor and have a nut on the underside - the clear issue being that the floor panel looks pretty deformed from the bolt being tightened up.

I can't believe that the seats are secured only to the ally panel but it has me concerned enough for it to be yet another element that I'm going to "un build" in order to give my self confidence that its done right.

I didn't build this car.. but I've "unbuilt" so much of it to date that I'm being to wish I had just started from a fresh!


I am beginning to wonder if I prefer taking it to bit sand putting it back together more than I do driving it... given thats all I have been able to do since owning it for 2 years!!


Have had Tango about a year now was hoping to have it done for stoneleigh last year that never happened Lol

Still hoping this year ( If the show goes ahead at all )

Well at least mine had large washers to spread the load. So not to damage the floor panels to much

Re: Seat fitting safely

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:41 am
by Boondougal
Jester wrote: Have had Tango about a year now was hoping to have it done for stoneleigh last year that never happened Lol

Still hoping this year ( If the show goes ahead at all )

Well at least mine had large washers to spread the load. So not to damage the floor panels to much


So I had a little fettle around and the situation seems better than I thought. The passenger side had no washers on the underside but the drivers side does have some significant washers present.

I unbolted the passenger side sand despite being able to remove the bolts I was not able at all to remove the seat - I have no idea what's holding it in but I can't get it out.

I'm going to add a cross member brace on the underside to span the space and tie it into the frame.

If anything this isolation thing will mean I'll be at home every night and should be able to get an hour in every day... which will make a huge a difference to progress for me.

:-)